Ron Paul ...

[DeafnDum]

So from what I've been hearing from some friends and then doing a little bit of reading tis Ron Paul guy seems to be a decent candidate for Pres in my view. But I also think he is being squashed by the major media, and as a result won't have a shot in hell of winning the primary's. I'd like to hear some of your reviews on this guy. So, have at it ....

[Mickulz]

He/she might be a good president, but he/she needs to work on his/her hair.

[sayten]

Rupaul is awesome... met him a few times up in NY and was just amazed at his character... exceptionally well spoken and intelligent... quite contrary to what is here in the mid-state!

[Mickulz]

I am surprised you could listen while giving him head...

:-)

[sayten]

mickulz said:

I am surprised you could listen while giving him head...

:-)

you have me confused with your mom again

[rjz]

That's what I hate about this board. Too many fucking douche bags looking to be funny. Jim, can you please make a new message board for jackasses who need to make themselves laugh!?
Hey, dumbasses....here's an idea...Spend your free time researching what the fuck is being done to your constitution, rather than attempting to be remotely humorous.
And do yourselves a favor and look up Ron Paul YOU FUCKS : )

[sayten]

rjz said:

That's what I hate about this board. Too many fucking douche bags looking to be funny. Jim, can you please make a new message board for jackasses who need to make themselves laugh!?
Hey, dumbasses....here's an idea...Spend your free time researching what the fuck is being done to your constitution, rather than attempting to be remotely humorous.
And do yourselves a favor and look up Ron Paul YOU FUCKS : )

It's kinda cute that you think that electing someone will change the way we live.... It's the perfect argument for... uh.... wait a minute.....

Actually, no one gives a fuck what you think; they pretend to to foster reciprocal indulgence in their own narcissism.

[Mickulz]

HAHA I love it.

Considering I was the one who asked for the political section to be created in the first place, you can lick my nuts.

As far as Ron Paul goes...I read up on him the first time he ran for president, and not much has changed with him. So no, I will not be voting for him. I would also venture to guess I spend more of my free time researching these things than you have since the last two elections combined. Use of humor does not equal uneducated. It is however nice that you try to prove your point and intelligence by name calling. That surely earns points.

To sum up my thoughts on Ron Paul:
The Average U.S. Male Lives to be...73.4 years old
Ron Paul is....71....73 by the time he would take office.
Ronald Reagan's age when elected....69

He would be well over 80 if her two termed....

[DeafnDum]

Good point Mick, hadn't considered the age factor.

After watching the CNN staged Democrat "debates" last night I think it's time to start planning on moving to my other favorite country, Italy.
I know I'm a dreamer Sayten, I think it's time for a revolution ... but until there's some good angry mobbing going on all we have is our vote ...
Now, when you get the angry mob together, give me a buzz and I'll be right there.

[BT]

Ron Paul is the best and probably last hope for America.

[BT]

Vote Ron Paul 2008

He wants to abolish the IRS, Federal Reserve, FEMA, CFR
He wants to get America out of bad trade deals like NAFTA, WTO, GATT
He wants to restore the authority of the Constitution

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

And he's a doctor! NOT a career attorney!

[zendog64]

Basically, it sounds like he has voted not from his conscience, but from what he believes the public wants to hear. Sure, FEMA has taken alot of flak (and rightly so), but if FEMA had been abolished before Katrina, the mess would have been a whole lot worse.

By voting against tax increases, abolishing the IRS, and the Federal Reserve, where does Mr. Paul think the money will come from to run the damn government?

The only nation that really benefits from NAFTA is Mexico. Without it, the Mexican economy would be even worse than it is now, thereby motivating more Mexicans to come to America, most of them illegally.

He voted against the Patriot Act, he voted against the war, against gun restriction, against internet regulation....the picture I get of Mr. Paul's utopian America is one full of handguns, terrorists, illegal immigrants, child pornographers and a bankrupt government. Yeah, sounds like a great idea to me.

[Mickulz]

Zen;
You took the words out of my mouth. We would be a broke-ass, lawless nation.

[BT]

Zen and Mickulz you obviously haven't even taken the time to find out what Ron Paul says about illegal immigration because he would shut that down immediately. It makes no sense whatsoever to be fighting a so-called War on Terrorism while our back door is wide open. It's easy to eliminate the IRS when you also eliminate other big bureaucratic agencies and stop meddling in other countries internal affairs.

You people bitching about Ron Paul will be the first to start crying and yelling for help when tyou can't say anything about this government and are put in those FEMA camps, aka concentration camps. Do you want a One World Order? Do you want the government to raise you from cradle to grave? Do you want the REAL ID act in place? (followed by an RFID chip) Do you want the Federal Reserve to continue to run this country? Do you want to live in a fascist/communist country? If so, vote for Rudolph Adolph or Hillary and that is what you are going to get. If not, reconsider your choices and act like you care about this country and what it stands for.

[zendog64]

I didn't need to do any research to find out where Ron Paul stands on immigration. Going by the rest of his platform, it's easy to see why he's opposed to illegal immigration: because it's a popular sentiment. If the majority of Americans wanted to declare war on Norway, you can bet Mr. Paul will be at the forefront leading the charge. I'll let you in on a little secret...politicians tell people what they want to hear in order to get elected. Yeah, I know, I can hardly believe it myself! (I feel obliged to point out that the last sentence was intended to be sarcastic).

I'll make you a deal. When FEMA knocks on my door and drags me away in the middle of the night kicking and screaming, implants a microchip in my brain, and throws me into one of their concentration camps, I'll say aloud, "Why oh why didnt I listen to that guy on the HBGOnline message board!" Yes, as I'm forced to eat my meager rations and burn photos of Ben Bernanke, I will be lamenting my decision not to vote for Ron Paul.

[Mickulz]

You and your little libtard army can go and try to sugar coat the uniformed. I have read up on pretty much every candidate.

To make a nazi reference shows me exactly how much of a fool you are. Let alone tasteless.

Now it makes me easier to ignore you. Go drink your kool-aide now..

[sayten]

armorofchrist777 said:

back door

[John Kerecz]

Did some one say enter in the rear!?

[TAFKA g0d]

sayten said:

It's kinda cute that you think that electing someone will change the way we live....

That is one hell of an intelligent statement.

[sayten]

g0d said:

sayten said:

It's kinda cute that you think that electing someone will change the way we live....

That is one hell of a sad and scary statement.

/fixed

[BT]

Well, Mickulz when you can't attack Ron Paul personally and you can't attack his stances on issues, now you must turn to attacking his supporters; just like a typical disinformationalist. I've seen your website and I know what you're all about now Mickulz.

To everyone who reads this: All of the "top-tier" candidates for president in both parties are the members of the secretive organization called The Council on Foreign Relations.

They are:

Fred Thompson
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Jim Gilmore
Newt Gingrich
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson

(Ron Paul is one of the few candidates who are not members of the CFR)

I'm sure you love this Mickulz, since the CFR is part your network. The true purpose and plan of the CFR:

“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England… (and) …believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

[sayten]

Propaganda death ensemble Burial to be
Corpses rotting through the night In blood laced misery
Scorched earth the policy The reason for the siege
The pendulum it shaves the blade The strafing air blood raid

Infiltration push reserves Encircle the front lines
Supreme art of strategy Playing on the minds
Bombard till submission Take all to their graves
Indication of triumph The number that are dead


Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war When victory's a massacre
The final swing is not a drill It's how many people I can kill

[zendog64]

Secretive organization? The CFR is nothing but an independent non-partisan think tank (of which washington is full of), formed sometime after WW1 to come up with ideas for post-war europe. They have their own website, publish their own journal, and have regular meetings. AOC777 would have you believe that the CFR is some kind of secret society hellbent on establishing a one-world order, which is simply not the case.

Apart from top members of government, membership in this "secret society" consists of respected business leaders like Jack Welch, journalists such as Tom Brokaw and Barbara Walters, and idiots like George Soros and John Kerry.

Some of the world's biggest defense contractors are also members of the CFR, which totally blows apart the theory that one of the CFR's goals is promoting disarmament. That would be like McDonald's joining PETA.

Quite simply, the CFR is an organization comprised of conservatives, liberals, and moderates with a sprinkling of left-wing extremists for good measure....really an impressive array of conflicting viewpoints, which is a pretty good concept. I think your buddy Ron Paul is just bitter because he was excluded from the list of membership. If Soros can be a member and Mr. Paul can't, then you know Ron Paul is nuttier than a squirrel's breakfast.

[BT]

Ron Paul will never join your Brotherhood. When someone comes along talking about the authority of the Constitution and you call him "nuttier than a squirrel's breakfast" shows where your loyalties lie, zendog. You seem to be so well-informed about the inner workings of the CFR to be able to make such claims as it's "nothing but an independent non-partisan think tank". You seem to have come to quite different conclusions than the majoirty of researchers out there. I know what think-tanks are and usually what they're thinking about is not good. CFR was founded to rebuild post-war Europe? So what is their "agenda" today? Build the NAU. The only disarmament they promote is the disarmament of American citizens, not the war machine - the US will provide the military for the NAU. And by the way, George Soros is not an idiot; he's a cunning psychopath like Bush and the rest of them.

First of all, I don't think it would look very good if the top-tier candidates in both parties were members of the same freakin' Tiddlywinks team (much less a society of elites). No matter who wins, that Tiddlywinks team benefits. And that Tiddlywinks team would seem to have a lot of influence regarding who runs for President, and who gets air-time in the media. The Council on Foreign Relations is not such a benign organization as a Tiddlywinks team. Everyone go here and read CFR quotes: www.fdrs.org/council_on_foreign_relations_quotes.html It's not very flattering.

Don't forget the 2004 elections, when our choice was between Bush and Kerry; cousins, and both members of the Order of the Skull and Bones. (oh I can hear zen or Mickulz now - " just a bunch of frat boys having fun"). Again, it didn't matter who won.

Due to your pattern of fitting the facts to alternate conclusions, combined with your straw-man arguments, attacking the messenger instead of attacking the message, as well as the appearance that you two are such a complimentary and self-congratulatory bunch, I suspect that you're both part of the disinformation machine. Mickulz makes statments on other blogs such as "I'm 100% certain that the North American Union won't happen". Hired to play Polizi on blogs and squash the truth? You NWO toadies are shaking in your shoes because Ron Paul is waking up the masses to your treason.


"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."
Ephesians 5:11.



"Joint security perimeter for North America by 2010: "The leaders of Canada, Mexico and the United States will discuss a plan to beef up continental security and speed up movement across their borders when they meet next week. "A report calls for the creation of a common economic and security community by the end of the decade. The document's proposals would try to create a secure perimeter around the continent, while making it easier for people and goods to move across the shared borders..."The report was jointly sponsored by the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations. Among its chief recommendations: Unified visa and refugee regulations. Joint inspection of container traffic at ports. An integrated terror watch list. Biometric border passes to allow freer movement at borders.... A strategy to stimulate Mexican economic development."

"Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected." - James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984

[zendog64]

For the record, it is very rare that Mickulz and I agree on things politically. I'm not implying that you are wrong, because I am aware that there are those in the CFR who would cream their pants over the idea of globalization and a one-world order. However, it's a bit misleading to assume that every member of the CFR shares the same opinion. The very organization was founded to bring a diverse collection of economic and political "elites" together to discuss america's role in foreign economic policy.

[TAFKA g0d]

Or how about.....

Isaiah 2:4 - And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.

Not hear to promote my views... but I have to admit I think its disgusting that someone who bears the name armorofchrist would frown upon any effort made to promote peace.

[TAFKA g0d]

dammit... here not hear

[BT]

Zen, be careful when only coming "half-clean" about the CFR.

Goshdarnit, you must have me confused with someone else. Nowhere have you seen me promoting war. I am very very much against war. Ron Paul wants us out of Iraq now and to stay out of foreign entanglements as per the Constitution. I agree with Dr. Paul.

Vote Ron Paul in 2008. Freedom, Peace, and Prosperity.

[DeafnDum]

The more we look into it the more it feels like 'The Matrix'....
there's something bigger.

mmmmm.... cookies ....

What if our DNA is encoded to force us into our own demise?
What if the cells we call our thoughts and lives are only particulates in a cosm that we are unable to realize?
What if harmony really is all about mathematic, fundamental waveforms. And Ron Paul just has better intonation than that Hillary cunt bitch fundraising politico slut bag.

Didi I say that out loud?

Mmmmm ... cookies.....

[Mickulz]

You should (TM) "politico slut bag" I kinda like that.