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Post by John Kerecz on Jul 18, 2007 11:07:26 GMT -5
We are all doomed!!!
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Post by oquatanginwann on Aug 30, 2007 7:48:05 GMT -5
Politico Slut Bag would be a good name for a jam band!
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Sept 7, 2007 18:03:44 GMT -5
I'm not getting involved in any of this yet... too early for me. Haven't decided which Republican I'm voting for but here are some"interesting" Ron Paul quotes.... I'm not saying what I think of these quotes... just more food for the fire maybe.
"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action"
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal"
"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."
"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
Paul also claimed former President Bill Clinton not only fathered illegitimate children, but that he also used cocaine which "would explain certain mysteries" about the President's scratchy voice. "None of this is conclusive, of course, but it sure is interesting,” he said.
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Post by zendog64 on Sept 9, 2007 23:34:55 GMT -5
"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
although i agree that mr. paul is an idiot, i can't argue with that particular statement. it is a well-documented fact.
the rest though seems to be enough to make anyone take this candidate seriously.
as for me, i'm leaning towards giuliani. i disagree on him when it comes to immigration and abortion, but overall he seems to have the right idea.
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Post by BT on Sept 17, 2007 0:52:42 GMT -5
JeffD5Buddy,
Those racist remarks were published in one issue of a newletter that Ron Paul put out in the early 90's but were not written by Ron Paul. They were written by an employee who was promptly sacked after publishing those dispicable statements. If you have heard/read anything else Dr. Paul has said/written, you would see how very different even the style and language used are from actual Ron Paul material. Even the NY Times has concluded that those remarks were done by a ghost writer. The MSM has repeatedly tried to use that incident to desperately try to label Dr. Paul as a racist, along with things like being an anti-semetic, conspiracy troofer that wants to let Exxon spew pollution everywhere(isn't that a contradiction?).
None of this stuff ever sticks. They have no dirt on the guy because there is none. He's a very principled man, which way more than you can say about ANY of the other candidates. Maybe you don't agree with him 100% of the time (I support him and I don't even agree with him 100% of the time), but you're never left in doubt as to where he stands on an issue. And he'll give you a detailed explanation as to WHY he thinks that way. Ron Paul is getting popular not because of his power, money, influence, looks, etc. It's because of his views. He really fights for the principles other Republicans only pretend to stand for.
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Post by BT on Sept 17, 2007 0:55:25 GMT -5
zendog, JeffD5Buddy never called Ron Paul an idiot. I guess you just tried to pre-emptively put words in his mouth. The fact that you would stoop so low as to call someone an "idiot" who is a medical doctor that has delivered 4,000 babies (and never performed an abortion, by The way) and elected to office 10 times just shows you're the one who's the idiot and it looks like you're the one who condones racism. I seriously doubt you're smarter than he is. And tell me how a transvestite (youtube: "Giuliani in drag smooching Donald Trump"), who is a blatant bi-sexual, pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, gun-grabber running as a Republican? These are not conservative values. Good luck getting the vote of the religious right. Ron Paul is the only REAL Christian in the bunch. All research the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS. Hitlery and JulieAnnie and the rest of the top tier candidates from BOTH Republican and Democratic parties are members of this shady, elite organization. No matter who gets in (except Ron Paul), we'll still head for the North American Union (that's the REAL reason behind the illegal immigration), endless war, more Federal Reserve engineered inflation/recessions,and a microchipped population. Bye Bye Constitution and the civil liberties it protects. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! DO YOUR RESEARCH!! Watch Aaron Russo's documentary "America: Freedom to Fascism". It’s important to accept one fact about contemporary America. This is not a democracy, and certainly not a constitutional republic (anymore). America is actually a carefully concealed oligarchy. A few thousand people, mostly in government, finance, and the military-industrial complex, run this country for their own purposes. This is not what the Founding Fathers envisioned for this country. By manipulating the two-party system, influencing the mainstream media, and controlling the flow of campaign finance money, this oligarchy works to secure the nomination of its preferred candidates (Democratic and Republican alike), thus giving a ‘choice’ between Puppet A and Marionette B. The left/right paradigm is a false one; there is no difference between the neo-cons and neo-libs apart from the types of promises they never keep. Rockefeller owns both of them. Get that through your head. Unlike the establishment’s candidates, Ron Paul is a freelancer running on three specific ideas: 1. The federal government must function within the strict guidelines of the Constitution. 2. America should deconstruct its empire, withdraw our troops from around the world and reestablish a foreign policy based on nonintervention. 3. America should abolish the Federal Reserve Bank, eliminate fiat currency and return to hard money. This is not a political agenda. This is not a party platform. It is a revolution. The entire ruling oligarchy would be swept away if these ideas were ever implemented. Every sentence, every word, every jot and tittle of this agenda is unacceptable, repellent and hateful to America’s ruling elite. Between now and November 2008, many Americans will experience the Ron Paul epiphany, in which the scales will fall from their eyes, and they will suddenly realize that they do not want the nation to continue in the direction that George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Fred Thompson, Hussein Osama and Rudy McRomney all intend on taking it. The choice is simple. If you want to live under an EU-style regime that is intent on invading and occupying other countries in the name of democracy for the forseeable future, vote for any of the so-called major candidates. It doesn't matter which one. There is no significant difference between President Bush and Sen. Clinton, or between Sen. Thompson and Sen. Obama. If, on the other hand, you wish to live in a nation where the United States government is governed by the Constitution, you had better support Ron Paul. This may be your only opportunity, for it is entirely possible that this will be the last time such a choice is presented to you. Youtube Ron Paul Google Ron Paul RONPAUL.MEETUP.COM (organize with other activists) www.ronpaul2008.com (/DONATE) Freedom, Peace, Prosperity. The freedom message unites us - it does not divide us. Stop being good Democrats. Stop being good Republicans. Start being good Americans. |
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Post by Mickulz on Sept 17, 2007 8:33:35 GMT -5
zendog, The fact that you would stoop so low as to call someone an "idiot" who is a medical doctor that ..... Hitlery and JulieAnnie.... So calling them a version of Hitler is not stooping low either? |
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Post by zendog64 on Sept 17, 2007 21:00:31 GMT -5
AoC777, I believe we've already discussed the Council on Foreign Relations at depth on this board. Since I'm an idiot and incapable of figuring it out on my own, could you please explain to me how I'm racist? Was it because I agreed that black men commit crimes that are disproportionate to their numbers? That's just a well-documented fact. If I said that gay men generally enjoy sex with other men, does that make me a homophobe?
The fact that Mr. Paul was a doctor does little to impress me. He couldve been an astronaut or a rockstar for all I care. I don't care if he delivered ten babies or ten million, what the hell does that have to do with politics?
Yes, I'm a conservative republican, but I'm still voting for Giuliani. I don't care if he's a cross-dresser, or if he goes clubbing baby seals in the arctic on weekends. People want a candidate they can identify with, and the last time I checked, most of us humans do have skeletons in our closets. Personally, I don't want a squeaky-clean dirt-free president. I want someone who's a regular guy, someone I can identify with.
Just by listening to Mr. Paul, I've concluded that he has no concept of economics and no grasp of international politics. Ditto for Obama, Clinton, and a bunch of the republican candidates as well.
As for America being an oligarchy, I won't bebate that. I wouldn't debate it if someone said America was an aristocracy either. Yes, it sucks, but that's the way it is.
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Post by sayten on Sept 18, 2007 20:54:06 GMT -5
Yes, it sucks, but that's the way it is. this is a never ending cycle that we are doomed to repeat... it's like bad music... same for the gov't... at least bad music doesn't steal money from my children |
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Sept 24, 2007 16:40:44 GMT -5
Thanks for letting me know that.... I just read it and passed it on. Should have done some more homework. Just to reiterate though.... I'm not getting too involved yet and haven't really done any homework so I wasn't putting that up to bash him or anything, just found it intriguing. I'm leaning towards Fred Thompson now but that's solely based on a gut feeling. It's a long way away and I get political overload so I'm trying to stay out of arguments until I'm better informed. Thanks again for clearing that up and not smashing me on here..... you'll have time to do that later! haha
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Post by zendog64 on Sept 25, 2007 0:26:27 GMT -5
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Sept 25, 2007 19:17:28 GMT -5
I couldn't vote any other way and sleep at night.
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Post by BT on Oct 20, 2007 2:48:08 GMT -5
Yeah, well I think it's very important for all Americans to take notice of the facts:
Which 2008 Presidential Candidates are members of the CFR?
Fred Thompson
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Candidates Gravel, Kucinuch and Ron Paul are NOT a members of the CFR and Paul has stated that he will not allow the Presidency to become entangled with them.
The Council On Foreign Relations is working for the absolute destruction of everything that made America the greatest Country in the history of mankind. For any Presidential candidate to be a member of this organization is an affront to the senses and some would say a treasonous act. If these candidates were members of some white supremist group, or the Communist Party or any other openly disgusting organization they would be derided, ridiculed and run from office. But through the secrecy of the CFR they seem to be getting away with supporting the very destruction of the American Republic.
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Post by BT on Oct 20, 2007 3:03:55 GMT -5
Well zendog64, I guess the regular guys you identify with are transvestites. Yep, I can see that. And I guess you'd rather have career politicains lying to you The point is, Giuliani is not conservative, neither are you, so you guys should be Democrats. But I guess we'll just have to stick with the label "liberal wing of the Republican party" aka NEO-CONS that now populate the leadership of the GOP. Thank God the regular people are still conservatives and are waking up. ________________________________________ Those who have ears let them hear the message of freedom and liberty. Ron Paul - Thomas Jefferson of Our Day. Ron Paul - The only one who can Beat Hillary. Ron Paul - Veteran, Physician, Peacemaker, Statesman, Constitutionalist American Hero of a free, prosperous nation!!!! Congressman Ron Paul for President. He voted against the Iraq war. Youtube Ron Paul (BEST RON PAUL VIDEO YET: youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA)Google Ron Paul RONPAUL.MEETUP.COM (organize with other activists) www.ronpaul2008.com (/DONATE $100 ON NOV. 5 - thisnovember5th.com/)Freedom, Peace, Prosperity. |
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Post by scotchboy on Oct 26, 2007 13:08:22 GMT -5
By voting against tax increases, abolishing the IRS, and the Federal Reserve, where does Mr. Paul think the money will come from to run the damn government? Are you saying that you like having a big government? Sounds like socialism. You know, there are people who intentionally work for less money, just so they can reap the socialist programs that you and I pay for. That's where the large amount of taxes we pay go to. Programs to pay for the slackers who can't or won't pay their own way. Charities are for people who need. Programs are for people who qualify. |
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Post by scotchboy on Oct 26, 2007 13:16:51 GMT -5
Ron Paul is the only REAL Christian in the bunch. I'm not voting for a fucking pastor for my church. I need someone to represent my interests in the government. We all know right from wrong in it's purest form. We are born with it. God is the judge when it comes to morality, not the government, so any 'morality' issues shouldn't really come into play when voting. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Telling people they can't do something is not a way to keep them from doing it, so maybe we should stop trying to regulate morality and start running a country. The best one in the world! P.S. I may vote for Kucinich based on the hottness of his wife. |
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Post by Mickulz on Oct 26, 2007 14:02:59 GMT -5
Ron Paul is the only REAL Christian in the bunch. Wow, way to assume that everyone in the country is Christian. Religious beliefs/membership never have and never will come in to my thoughts when voting for an elected official. |
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Post by BT on Nov 9, 2007 12:23:43 GMT -5
Ron Paul raises 4 million in one day!! This Revolution is reaching the tipping point!!!!
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Post by BT on Nov 13, 2007 13:05:12 GMT -5
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Post by sayten on Nov 14, 2007 23:00:32 GMT -5
Where is the promo for the upcoming party in Harristurd at Dragonfly? losers |
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Post by mdeasy on Nov 16, 2007 10:49:43 GMT -5
Your comment on his age is confirmation of your ignorance. At 80 or even 100 Ron Paul will be brighter an more informed than you will ever be. If we don't fix our monitary system this country will die. The US dollar has lost over %40 of its value against the euro in the last two years. Ron paul is the only candidate that is willing to make the hard decisions that can fix this. lick my nuts. I would also venture to guess I spend more of my free time researching these things than you have since the last two elections combined. Use of humor does not equal uneducated. It is however nice that you try to prove your point and intelligence by name calling. To sum up my thoughts on Ron Paul: The Average U.S. Male Lives to be...73.4 years old Ron Paul is....71....73 by the time he would take office. Ronald Reagan's age when elected....69 He would be well over 80 if her two termed.... |
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Post by mdeasy on Nov 16, 2007 10:58:48 GMT -5
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Nov 16, 2007 14:13:33 GMT -5
Like I posted in another thread..... I applaud the enthusiasm of the Ron Paul supporters but here's what's gonna happen. He has NO CHANCE in hell of winning the Republican nomination so he'll run as an Independent or Libertarian and sew up the election for the Democrat nominee. He's the Ross Perot of 2008. My question on Ron Paul is I hear all these things he's not voted for or has voted for or the things he wants to abolish but I never hear what he plans to do after he would do this or that. Basically I agree with his views of getting back to what our Constitution writers planned but other that that..... most of his ideas would NEVER fly through Congress so they are really unreasonable and a waste to talk about..... in my opinion. I'd like to hear him give ideas on things that are actually obtainable. Now I don't mean EVERYTHING he says is unobtainable, just a lot of it. And for the record, I'm not voting for him nor will I ever.... but I'm also not a Ron Paul hater.
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Post by seanx on Nov 16, 2007 14:30:52 GMT -5
Jeff, your a nice guy but you are also one of the dumber people I've ever met, so like most of your posts, I'll overlook the stupidity in this one as well..........
.......people like you are the reason the elite want to eliminate most of humanity and create the New World Order............I'd personally rather flush us ALL away and start over
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Nov 16, 2007 19:12:10 GMT -5
I thought you were a decent guy and I enjoy our banter but calling me dumb just shows how dumb you are... I didn't attack you or any other Ron Paul supporters......so if I'm so dumb.... show me how Ron Paul plans on getting along without the IRS or CIA .........I won't wait because you won't be able to show me. So it sounds like now, people that support this guy are the dumb ones. Have fun wasting all your hard earned money on a guy, that mark my words, HAS NO CHANCE OF BEING PRESIDENT. Have fun at your pointless rallies and spray painting sheets or whatever it is you Ron Paul supporters do. Now since I didn't resort to starting personal attacks, I'll be the bigger guy here and let you tell me where in the above post the stupidity is..... By the way.... last poll I looked at..... Ron Paul is behind everyones else...but just ahead of Tom Tancredo. Yeah for the Ron Paul!
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Post by sayten on Nov 16, 2007 20:12:18 GMT -5
this entire conversation is stupid... you can't single out one person... we're all fucking retards....
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Nov 16, 2007 20:52:04 GMT -5
I agree.... I just thought it was funny how seanx called me one of the dumbest people he ever meet because I question a man that wants to abolish the CIA and IRS.... He's never meet me, he doesn't know what my education level is. I'm voting for Penn Jillette on a write in.
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Post by seanx on Nov 16, 2007 21:22:34 GMT -5
Like I posted in another thread..... I applaud the enthusiasm of the Ron Paul supporters but here's what's gonna happen. He has NO CHANCE in hell of winning the Republican nomination so he'll run as an Independent or Libertarian and sew up the election for the Democrat nominee. He's the Ross Perot of 2008. My question on Ron Paul is I hear all these things he's not voted for or has voted for or the things he wants to abolish but I never hear what he plans to do after he would do this or that. Basically I agree with his views of getting back to what our Constitution writers planned but other that that..... most of his ideas would NEVER fly through Congress so they are really unreasonable and a waste to talk about..... in my opinion. I'd like to hear him give ideas on things that are actually obtainable. Now I don't mean EVERYTHING he says is unobtainable, just a lot of it. And for the record, I'm not voting for him nor will I ever.... but I'm also not a Ron Paul hater. It's ok if you personally attack me too. I don't mind. I can't help that I'm brutally honest. I personally like you and think you do have good traits : you are loyal (to a fault sometimes), responsible, and seem like a pretty honest person with good morals. Now why do I think that your post contains stupidity: I've stated before and if you don't know it's true you are in denial. The elections are fixed and fraudulent (cases in point are the Ohio and Florida problems in the last 2 elections and the Tom Delay changing of voting districts to get the majority for the Republicans.....funny thing is I'm a Republican but not a Bushite so this shit pisses me off). So when you say that Ron Paul has no chance of winning, you would be correct. However, which other candidate that the elite doesn't want in the office of President has a chance either? Answer: none. Therefore unless YOU are going to vote for their handpicked choice YOU AND EVERY OTHER VOTER (not just Paul supporters) are wasting your time and votes as well. Next as to what would his plans be without the IRS and the other agencies he wants to abolish: I've seen him on television speak on this subject. He would start from square one and rebuild these agencies under other names without the same old same old people in the positions of authority and with no conflict of interests in those positions. Don't you think that is a good idea? Also if you haven't fully investigated the IRS you should. It is an entity separate from our government in which nearly 50% of your taxes are not put into use at all but are used to line the pockets and pensions of the big banks, lobbyists, corporate elite, and politicians in their control. Less than 50% of the tax monies is used for the purpose of helping this country. I think scrapping the whole system and putting taxes directly into the places the funds should go is a good thing. I know you think you should be paying income tax but I ask you to show me where the law is that shows it. A lawyer in Mississippi just recently won a lawsuit against the IRS regarding this, but in the meantime they wrecked his career by threatening to audit every one of his clients so he went bankrupt....but he did win. Finally when you say none of his ideas will make it through Congress.....when the hell was the last time ANY good ideas made it through Congress? Please answer that one. They will earmark the thing to death and it either won't pass or they will not get the votes to allow the thing. And it almost always seems to be that different senators and congressmen all flip flop on the common sense things so you can't pin down the bad one's and get rid of them....each one will do it for different issues....such as one guy wants amnesty for illegals, but doesn't want the war, and wants to secure our ports from foreign control. what the hell do you do there? pick the best of three evils or look for a guy who wants to fix them all? I feel like you are just throwing the towel in when you pick someone who isn't going to fix 90% of the issues. Name one Republican or Democratic candidate that has any common sense solutions for 90% of the problems.........at least Ron Paul does. And he is not in the pocket of corporate America which is what really runs this country. Jeff, follow the money trail....see who and which families control the banks and which are tied to corporations, lobbying firms, positions high up in our government, and in secret societies. The reason I bring up the secret society oath thing again is that one of their oaths actually says that they should stand by a brother who has committed murder, rape or treason, and if they don't they swear that their lives can be taken or they will take another brother's life if he doesn't abide.......isn't that undermining the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Country first? I think not..... If you would just research things or perhaps do some reading instead of blindly following agenda-based media figures, you would enlighten yourself on things. If you want a list of good books to start with I can give you some ideas. I'm pounding out the Constitutional Law books right now, in addition to The Wizard about Nikola Tesla, The Order of the Death's Head about the SS and Hitler, a book on homeopathic medicine and native American healing plants, and a textbook on Movie making and it's history. What are you reading to make yourself better? The Glenn Beck book of neocon ideology? The guy skews history and the facts and you accept them without question. Know history and the truth first, then listen to him and see what he is really saying.......you are not alone. 90% of people are like you and think that the media is not propaganda.....it is and if you don't wake up to that fact then you are part of this country's problem and not part of the solution. I think you want to be a good American, problem is you like most people are lazy and don't want to do the mental work to fix the problems. I don't care who you vote for, just don't tell me that my vote is a throw away vote and that I'm screwing things up for the Republican party. They do that just fine without my help. |
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Post by seanx on Nov 16, 2007 21:26:40 GMT -5
...by the way, I have met you many times.....and we've hung out......good grief, Charlie Brown
....and yes sayten I know I'm a retard, I'm posting on this messageboard again.......I love you all though (in the not gay way).....I apologize for being honest, but at least you will always know where I stand
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Post by Mickulz on Nov 16, 2007 23:27:00 GMT -5
"Soldiers of Destruction The SS Deaths Head Division" is a great book on the history of the SS. It is by C W Sydnor. Pretty good read. After 2 years of constitutional law and theology classes, I am trying to move away for a bit. I actually just got done re-reading 1984 again. While Nikola Tesla had some great ideas and inventions, I just am really not much in to that either. That last political book I read was the Reagan Memoirs. I was actually thinking about taking up Arabic or some other very foreign language.
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