Hillary has another great idea..............

[seanx]

Like I said before: They are all playing their parts to bring about our country's demise:

Where the hell is Mickulz? He must have been out nailing a bunny to a crucifix yesterday (since he doesn't believe in or recognize "The Christ-meister")


Wolves in the Chicken Coup: Clinton Wants Greenspan to "Re-establish Confidence In Our Economy"

Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
March 24, 2008

As Einstein supposedly acknowledged, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. On the surface, it appears Hillary Clinton fits Einstein’s dictum, as she calls “on President Bush on Monday to appoint ‘an emergency working group on foreclosures’ to recommend new ways to confront the nation’s housing finance troubles,” according to the Associated Press.

The New York senator said the panel should be led by financial experts such as Robert Rubin, who was treasury secretary in her husband’s administration, and former Federal Reserve chairmen Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker.

It is sort of like inviting vultures in to watch a funeral. But then all was planned that way. Recall Greenspan trekking off to the Gulf states and suggesting they abandon the dollar peg, part of the ongoing process of making sure the dollar is no longer currency of choice for foreign exchange reserves. Last year, Greenspan urged a move into the euro, thus helping to facilitate what is turning out to be a stampede away from the battered dollar.

Robert Rubin is an ideal choice as Greenspan’s helpmate, as he is the director and chairman of the executive committee of Citigroup and a former secretary of the Treasury under Hillary’s husband. It also helps a lot that he is the co-chairman of the board of directors of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Paul Volcker, a consummate insider, is a former Fed boss all wrapped up with the Rockefellers. He is the current chairman of the Board of Trustees of the influential financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty, and is a member of the Trilateral Commission. Volcker’s pet project in the 1970s was to induce stagflation in the U.S. economy, engineer recession and thus create the highest unemployment levels since the Great Depression.

And these guys will set straight the housing finance troubles how? In fact, Clinton is simply urging Bush and his neocon handlers to continue the process of destroying the U.S. economy, a process well advanced as the elite continue their effort to turn the once great United States into a second-rate post-industrial nation, lately billed as “a necessary rebalancing of demand and to an orderly unwinding of global imbalances.”

“In layman’s terms, this means lowering the living standards of the American middle class by tanking the dollar and sending oil prices skyrocketing towards $200, as part of the ‘post-industrial revolution’ agreed upon by the Bilderberg Group,” writes Paul Joseph Watson. “This would eviscerate the middle class and create a two-caste system based upon the Chinese model, where the super-rich live in opulence and the rest of the population are forced to struggle on the poverty line.”

Clinton is simply doing her part as she plays the election game. Expect things to really heat up after she does the inauguration ceremony promenade.

[Mickulz]

I am here. Just been swamped and have not had much to say. This board keeps going in the same cycles (as does the world around us).

And for the record, I do recognize Jesus. I just do not believe he is the ONLY way to Heaven or God.

[seanx]

mickulz said:

I am here. Just been swamped and have not had much to say. This board keeps going in the same cycles (as does the world around us).

And for the record, I do recognize Jesus. I just do not believe he is the ONLY way to Heaven or God.

Good to see ya around! ;D

....just posting on the bullcrappy cycles that the world is going through.....anytime you want to join forces with us and make a difference there is an open seat on the bus next to Armor OC waiting for ya......(that might lead to pencil fights, so forget that idea)....

anyway, you got any ideas on fixing the whole shithouse?......I think we would all be game for that...........or else let it all go up in smoke...............that would be fine with me too

oh yeah, quick question: do you believe one of the ways to Heaven or God goes through Jesus? explain

[JeffD5Buddy]

My idea on fixing the shithouse would be to let all the morons, when told they got approved for "this much", to lose their houses..... it's their fault they borrowed an amount, attached to a payment, way over their head. Also, I think we should let all the mortgage lenders who approved buyers for amounts, way over their heads, to take a shit and close up shop. The economy will right itself with no help from the government. But I will be taking the $600 or so I get in May and using it to help buy a flat screen.... you know, to do my part!

[freddyv]

jeffd5buddy said:

My idea on fixing the shithouse would be to let all the morons, when told they got approved for "this much", to lose their houses..... it's their fault they borrowed an amount, attached to a payment, way over their head. Also, I think we should let all the mortgage lenders who approved buyers for amounts, way over their heads, to take a shit and close up shop. The economy will right itself with no help from the government. But I will be taking the $600 or so I get in May and using it to help buy a flat screen.... you know, to do my part!

I agree with you, jeff. pleading ignorance doesn't really work here. no one better knows your financial situation and what you can afford than you! if a bank wants to give someone a loan that they clearly can't afford, then the bank should be forced to eat it when, surprise surprise, the person defaults.

the fed shouldn't be bailing these mega corporations out either. the rest of us shouldn't be forced to suffer because of other people's bone-headed decisions. the responsible people are penalized for saving thanks to the inflation tax levied by the fed.

now they want more regulation to help prevent stuff like this happening. every time the government intervenes it just makes it worse (think enron and sarbanes-oxley).

[Mickulz]

I believe that one of the ways is through Jesus, but not the only way. I believe that most religions are derived from one source and take on a form/meaning of the area in which they are taught. Jews, Muslims, Hindi, Christians, Buddhist, all can (and should) co-exist if people took the time to learn the other religions. A lot of them (and I know not all of them) teach the same things and have the same concepts.

I believe the bible is a collection os stories that have great meaning and good things to learn from, but I do not believe it is the literal word of God. I also believe that much of the bible is distorted either by translations, or by the personal views of the people telling the story.

I believe God does not care if I wear sneakers to my place of worship, or how much I can money I can spare.

I believe there is two sides the bible. The gloom and doom and the happy teachings.

I believe the Moses, Jesus, Adam, Muhammad, and a slew of others were all messengers of God, sent to speak to the people that they best could mesh with.

Do I think there is an afterlife? I do not know, but it would be nice to have one.

I think people can also choose to come back if they wish.

I believe we evolved over time from something else, but that is not to say God created what we evolved from.

I think that is it for now....

[seanx]

.....so do you worship or pray or meditate to anyone/thing? or not and why? out of pure curiosity (I went into my whole saga awhile ago)

[sayten]

religion is a crutch for the weak that should be dispatched to the dirt....

next

[Mickulz]

I do pray God on a daily basis. I also meditate a lot.

[seanx]

.......not bad.......for you.........

now what about the Hiram Abiff and the 3 Jeu's story? Do you think that is legit or fictional?

[Mickulz]

Fictional.

[seanx]

...............see Armor, Mickulz hasn't been TOTALLY brainwashed...............

[Mickulz]

But, I also believe much of the bible is fictional.

[HBGOnline]

mickulz said:

But, I also believe much of the bible is fictional.

Did anyone catch Scorpian King last night? That was some cool shit!!! I'd like to have an asian chick worship me while doing the work. ;D

Oh we're talking about the bible. Having gone thru catholic school till 5th grade (Seven Sorrows in Mtown) I've had my fill of the bible. Perhaps the nuns should give it up once in awhile so they wouldn't be so damn mean. Ever get hit on the back of your neck with a yardstick? It's not fun. Go ahead and try it.

Better yet, just put your hands down and whack yourself on the knuckles with a yardstick. And how can I forget the pulling of the back neck head hair.

If these fuckers are going to heaven, I'll gladly go to hell!!!

[freddyv]

Clinton Pushes Housing Market Fixes As Campaign Manager Sits on Board of Bankrupt Lender
by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Sunday, March 30, 2008

WASHINGTON – Hillary Clinton spends considerable time on the campaign trail bemoaning unscrupulous lenders who have left millions of Americans scrambling to keep their homes but all the while her campaign manager, Margaret “Maggie” Williams, has sat on the board of one of the nation’s once-largest and now-bankrupt sub-prime mortgage lenders.

Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson told FOXNews.com late Sunday that Williams, a longtime Clinton ally, didn’t join Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign as a volunteer until after Delta Financial Corporation — for which Williams is a director — went bankrupt in December 2007.

That’s more than seven years after Williams joined New York-based Delta Financial in 2000. She became a director one month after a federal settlement was reached with the lender over discriminatory lending practices. More recently, Delta has been accused by consumer advocates of pursuing predatory practices throughout the housing boom and bust.

As of September 2007, Williams owned 12,500 shares of Delta’s common stock, and by 2007 had earned at least $175,000 for her board obligations, according to company filings available in the Securities & Exchange Commission online database.



you can read the rest here:
elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/30/as-clinton-talks-housing-crisis-campaign-manager-serves-on-board-of-bankrupt-lender/

one other interesting quote:

“They were one of the worst and most abusive sub-prime lenders in New York City,” said Josh Zinner, co-director of the Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP)

and here's a picture of the lady:

[freddyv]

more on the clinton advisory...

Clinton campaign head made $200,000 with subprime lender
BY GLENN THRUSH

[e-mail]

March 30, 2008

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign manager, Maggie Williams, earned about $200,000 on the board of a Long Island subprime lender that charged prepayment penalties - a practice that Clinton, a critic of the subprime industry, now seeks to eliminate.

Williams, who took over the reins of Clinton's campaign in early February, served as a director on the board of the Woodbury-based Delta Financial Corp. from April 2000 until the firm declared bankruptcy in December, according to Securities and Exchange Commission records.

She was recruited by former New York City Deputy Mayor Bill Lynch, a Delta consultant. Her assignments were to create a new code of "best practices," and to improve the company's crisis management operation in the wake of state and federal predatory lending probes that resulted in a $12 million payout to borrowers.

Her hiring coincided with stepped-up Delta outreach efforts in minority communities, where the company made a large number of its loans, an initiative that included parties for homeless children and mortgage seminars in Brooklyn and Queens.

Williams, 53, isn't the only Clinton insider who made money from an industry the candidate has demonized. A month ago, The Wall Street Journal reported that Clinton ally and former HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros grossed more than $5 million in stock sales and board compensation from Countrywide Financial, one of the nation's largest subprime lenders.

you can read the rest here:
www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-ushill305631627mar30,0,3896712,print.story

[freddyv]

mickulz said:

But, I also believe much of the bible is fictional.

the bible is a book of faith, not science. as such, it shouldn't be held to a scientific standard.

you've got to consider the writers of the bible...old testament stuff is several thousand years old. these people weren't the most scientifically astute individuals. although the writings were divinely inspired, I think in many cases it was the writer's attempt to explain the wonders of the world around them. for instance, I saw this article today that one researcher believes that sodom and gomorrah may have actually been taken out by an asteroid:

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343674,00.html

there's a lot of numerology/symbolism in the bible too. I think it's important to consider historical context and not just simply take the words at face value. say what you will about the catholic church, but they've done a decent job of accepting scientific discovery and allowing it to coexist with these stories of faith (evolution, etc.).

[Mickulz]

I am not saying anything about science. I am stating the fact that I view more like a fable.

[seanx]

mickulz said:

I am not saying anything about science. I am stating the fact that I view more like a fable.

........so which book do you find most valuable for it's lessons?........

[seanx]

freddyv said:

.....can't we just hit this fat pig with a locomotive?...........

[Mickulz]

Actually...I take a lot from most "religious" texts.