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Post by freddyv on Feb 20, 2008 8:31:24 GMT -5
As Republican candidates continue to drop out of the Presidential Primary, I've noticed that Republicans keep casting their votes for these people. I've heard the argument against Ron Paul that voting for him is throwing your vote away, because he doesn't have a legitimate shot of winning (historically this argument is usually reserved for third party candidates in the general election). Voting for a candidate that is no longer in the race is TRULY throwing your vote away. According to cnn.com, about 85,000 people voted for Romney last night even though he suspended his campaign almost two full weeks ago. The same thing happened with Giuliani in California. If they want to protest, most states have an "uninstructed" or "uncommitted" option that they can choose. What are these people thinking?
On the Dem side, Obama won his 9th and 10th straight primaries last night (again by fairly large margins). It's looking more and more like he's going to be our next President.
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Post by Mickulz on Feb 20, 2008 10:23:09 GMT -5
I would think a lot of that may be mail in votes and oversea votes that were sent in before he suspended it.
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Post by freddyv on Feb 20, 2008 11:02:02 GMT -5
possible, but seems unlikely. washington state mail ballots were mailed february 1, a friday, so people wouldn't have even received them until probably monday the 4th at the earliest (it probably would have taken even longer if they needed to be mailed abroad). news of romney dropping out hit around 12 noon on the 7th. Ballots had to be postmarked by february 19.
also, I just noticed that the 75,548 votes romney got in washington is with only 57% of precincts reporting, so the number might actually end up being much higher when it's all said and done. hard to believe that many people voted for romney by mail before the news hit.
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Post by Mickulz on Feb 20, 2008 11:04:34 GMT -5
Who knows. I was just offering what some of those voted may have been.
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Post by freddyv on Feb 20, 2008 11:20:47 GMT -5
that's cool, it just struck me as odd. kinda like how the washington caucus (which took place 10 days ago, also after romney dropped out) still had romney taking 15% of the vote.
it's also weird how the caucus results (96% reporting) were:
McCain - 26% Huckabee - 24% Paul - 22% Romney - 15%
but the primary results (57% reporting) were:
McCain - 49% Huckabee - 22% Romney - 20% Paul - 7%
I wouldn't expect such a disparity (regarding mccain and paul's numbers) considering nothing has really happened in the past 10 days that would change people's voting preferences.
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Post by piratepenguin on Feb 20, 2008 11:47:53 GMT -5
Hey Freddy...
I can speak to this a little bit, at least I'll try because I was thinking of doing the same thing on the Democratic side.
When the primary season started, it was pretty obvious that the PA primary wouldn't really matter a whole lot. My plan all along was to vote for John Edwards. My reasoning was that one, he'd still be in the race and need my support or two, if he got a strong showing perharps he'd be regarded as a possible running mate for whoever emerged as the front-runner.
Right now, that's still what I'm probably going to do, but if for some reason Obama hasn't locked up the nomination, then I'll probably change my mind and throw my support to him. As it would be more important for me to see him gain the nomination then show some token support for my favorite candidate.
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Post by freddyv on Feb 20, 2008 12:25:42 GMT -5
that's an interesting strategy. I don't know how much impact that will have on the party's decision though. (since apparently the party advises the candidate on whom to choose for a running mate). sean....I've seen you state before that if ron paul doesn't get the nomination, you will write him in. unfortunately, I don't think that the state will tally those votes without the proper paperwork being filled out. connecticut has this form that I just found this on the web: www.sots.ct.gov/electionsservices/electforms/ED622PresWrite-inAppl2008.pdfmaybe PA has a similar form?
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Feb 20, 2008 16:44:29 GMT -5
My guess is the protest vote is why a lot of people are voting for those no longer in the running. I've thought about it myself.... I don't like any of the current nominees so I don't know what to do. Hell, I'll vote for Paul for all the work you guys do here in spreading the word!
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Post by freddyv on Feb 20, 2008 19:55:52 GMT -5
nice!
then it was all worth it.
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Post by seanx on Feb 20, 2008 20:00:02 GMT -5
......I'm not sure if we can use your vote, Jeff, we've almost got 12% already.............of course that will show up as 4% on the newscasts............is Wolf Blitzer related to Adrian?
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Post by seanx on Feb 20, 2008 20:04:21 GMT -5
.......I was driving down 283 the other day and saw those same old Ron Paul for President spray painted signs......they remind me of someone's passionate cry for freedom in the empty darkness of the universe........their barbaric yawp
........on another Ron Paul sign topic, my daughter pointed out to me on second street in Hbg where someone posted a Ron Paul bumper sticker over a masonic lodge sign........I found that comically ironic.........
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