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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 5, 2007 18:14:25 GMT -5
Just wanted to know from all the die hard Ron Paul supporters, what will you do if he doesn't win the Republican nod and doesn't run on another party for the general election.
Will you vote Republican because that is the party he is in?
Vote Democrat just because the Republicans didn't vote for Paul?
Not vote at all, because Paul was your guy and he's not in the big show anymore?
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Post by seanx on Dec 5, 2007 19:16:38 GMT -5
...I think I'll vote for Obama since he's black and if he becomes President it'll stress you out to no end and make you smoke more cigarettes, which in turn will produce more greenhouse gas, which in turn will warm the earth faster, which in turn will spawn floods, storms, tidal waves, and very hot skin-burning rays from the sun......which it turn will bring about the end of humanity..........oh and your lopsided pool will dry up too
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Dec 5, 2007 19:54:56 GMT -5
Unless he has just a small bunch of rabid fans, I think he might surprise a few people at the primaries. I don't foresee him winning, just finishing a lot higher than the current polls are showing. Only problem I see is I know a lot of younger voters that dig him, just not many in the 40 and older range. I see Ron Paul signs EVERYWHERE and I drive on average of about 250-400 miles a day so kudos for his supporters for getting the word out. Not matter what you think of him (I'm not a supporter) I applaud the fact he's getting so many young people energized about politics and voting in general.
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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 5, 2007 20:55:22 GMT -5
Unless he has just a small bunch of rabid fans, I think he might surprise a few people at the primaries. I don't foresee him winning, just finishing a lot higher than the current polls are showing. Only problem I see is I know a lot of younger voters that dig him, just not many in the 40 and older range. I see Ron Paul signs EVERYWHERE and I drive on average of about 250-400 miles a day so kudos for his supporters for getting the word out. Not matter what you think of him (I'm not a supporter) I applaud the fact he's getting so many young people energized about politics and voting in general. I too applaud their energy and passion for Paul. I just want to know, will they continue after the primary or just say fuck it, if Paul is not the primary nominee. Paul is in the Republican Party. However I know many of his supporters in the past were true Democrats. Perhaps it should also be mentioned if they are registered Democrats, they can't even vote for Paul in the spring. |
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Post by seanx on Dec 5, 2007 21:11:09 GMT -5
Just wanted to know from all the die hard Ron Paul supporters, what will you do if he doesn't win the Republican nod and doesn't run on another party for the general election. Will you vote Republican because that is the party he is in? Vote Democrat just because the Republicans didn't vote for Paul? Not vote at all, because Paul was your guy and he's not in the big show anymore? ....on a more serious note, I would probably just fill in Ron Paul as a write-in candidate........I don't think there is any rule that says I can't do that.......anyone know of one? |
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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 5, 2007 21:37:16 GMT -5
....on a more serious note, I would probably just fill in Ron Paul as a write-in candidate........I don't think there is any rule that says I can't do that.......anyone know of one? That's what I'm talking about. No national canidate will even come close with a "write in" vote. Freddy, seanx, armorofchrist, deafndumb, and all other Paul supporters that post on this board, are you registered in this state as Republicans? If not why even bother getting involved. You say the media is the bad guy in regards to the coverage of his campaign. Yet if you are not registered properly to even cast a vote for Paul, aren't you more to blame for his defeat? Let's not forget every 4 years there's one guy that stands out from the pack. Just the last presidential election Howard Dean was in a similar position as Paul is now. Ross Perot same thing. If Paul doesn't get the Repulican nod, I hope those same people will continue their passion for politics. Republican or Democrat doesn't matter to me, just keep it going. |
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Post by seanx on Dec 5, 2007 23:14:41 GMT -5
....ummm as I've stated on here many, many times before: I AM A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.
....and I don't care if he won't even come close, I will NOT vote for a member of the crime syndicate which bows to the corporate elitists and is a member of their secret groups.......
....at some point, I would think you might wake up to this fact as well......when your rights as a free citizen of this country have been legislated away....then it will be too late.......
by the way, why do you think that Secret Service agents were helping with security on the Glenn Beck book tour???...............I don't think any average Joe would have them as part of his/her entourage......smoke and mirrors....mirrors and smoke.....
........it is a sad day when GW Bush can outsmart ya..........
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Dec 6, 2007 15:22:02 GMT -5
The Secret Service is tabbed, from time to time, to protect celebrities.... most recently, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. If you listen to Glenn, he doesn't speak very highly of Bush so it makes no sense it's part of some Crime Syndicate primming to take away our rights. I love chatting with you seanx but would hate to live in your world.
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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 6, 2007 16:41:24 GMT -5
The Secret Service is tabbed, from time to time, to protect celebrities.... most recently, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. If you listen to Glenn, he doesn't speak very highly of Bush so it makes no sense it's part of some Crime Syndicate primming to take away our rights. I love chatting with you seanx but would hate to live in your world. Agreed, in fact it seems each week he has something else that gets under his skin. What I like about Glenn, he speaks what's on his mind. I also think his views on various topics are those that most of America has on theirs. Doesn't matter if you're Republican or Democrat. I too highly doubt he is part of the "machine". To some, the sky will always be falling. |
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Dec 6, 2007 20:56:38 GMT -5
seanx and I have had our differences and I do respect his opinion.... just don't think everything is as bad as he does. But opinions are like assholes.... we all have one! Mine is no better than his!
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Post by seanx on Dec 6, 2007 21:52:44 GMT -5
....is fighting for our Constitutional rights and wanting our country to be what our forefathers envisioned it to be wrong?......
...by the way, on the way home from the asylum this afternoon a piece of the sky hit me in the head knocking off my tinfoil hat and it hurt like hell........the government did it....
I've got some news regarding our current battle with governmental agencies (seriously) when I've got more time to elaborate.....back to watching this high scoring extravaganza between the Skins and Bears!
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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 6, 2007 23:02:59 GMT -5
....is fighting for our Constitutional rights and wanting our country to be what our forefathers envisioned it to be wrong?...... I doubt anybody from the 1700's could have predicted/envisioned what we have today. I can only imagine what things will be like, 100 and more years into the future. |
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Post by seanx on Dec 6, 2007 23:46:42 GMT -5
agreed, but if we followed the Constitution and Bill of Rights as they currently stand and enforce the laws as they are written.....wouldn't things be better than they are now? and if not, which amendments would you change and why?
in 2 words or less........
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Post by mdeasy on Dec 6, 2007 23:52:07 GMT -5
I have a feeling he's going to run as an independent if he doesn't win in the primaries. The whole Ron Paul movement is about re-learning our responsibilities as citizens of this country. We are doing all this because our country is in dyer straits and if we do nothing say hello to fascism. I hope you are coming to the Bash!!! www.ronpaulbash.com |
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Post by freddyv on Dec 7, 2007 10:50:25 GMT -5
Freddy, seanx, armorofchrist, deafndumb, and all other Paul supporters that post on this board, are you registered in this state as Republicans? I am registered Republican, and having just moved one of the first things I did was make sure that I would be able to vote in my new county. If Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican nomination, I'm not entirely sure what I will do with my vote. There are too many uncertainties at this point for me to definitively say. If he runs as an independent, I will obviously vote for him. If it's a Clinton/Giuliani race, I'll have to go with Giuliani because I pretty much hate everything that Hillary Clinton stands for. If Obama gets the Democratic Party nod, I'd have to strongly consider voting for him. After 911 I thought that if Giuliani ever ran for President that I would vote for him. Seeing him in debates has really soured me on him though. I think it would be irresponsible of me to just not vote if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, so I suppose I'll just have to pick the lesser of two evils, whomever on the ballot that may be. To the people that are in favor of Ron Paul and his message, make sure that you are registered Republican or you will not be able to vote for him in the primary. I think the Republican primary in PA is in April, and I'm sure there is a deadline coming up for switching your party affiliation. |
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Post by seanx on Dec 7, 2007 14:22:27 GMT -5
freddy...do you know much of Giuliani's past? His connections? If you don't care that's fine....but if you do then you may want to do some heavy research on the guy....
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Post by JeffD5Buddy on Dec 7, 2007 15:08:12 GMT -5
Ron Paul is backed by several White Supremacists and neo-Nazi groups... has he done anything to disassociate himself with this? Everything I read is no but I am considering the source so I want to know from a supporter. Not a smart ass question, just wondering. Here's where I stumbled across it.... never looked at this site before so I'm not sure what they are about.... www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html |
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Post by HBGOnline on Dec 7, 2007 16:05:56 GMT -5
Ron Paul is backed by several White Supremacists and neo-Nazi groups... has he done anything to disassociate himself with this? Everything I read is no but I am considering the source so I want to know from a supporter. Not a smart ass question, just wondering. Here's where I stumbled across it.... never looked at this site before so I'm not sure what they are about.... www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.htmlTrouble maker!!! I started this post because of a conversation I had the other night. He was a BIG Ron Paul supporter. I asked him if he was a registered Dem or Rep. When he mentioned being a Dem, he thought I was razzing him by not even being able to cast a vote for Paul in the primary. His next comment was "I'd never register as a Republican". If Marshall was smart, he would have voter registration cards at the benefit. I don't think many know of the primary voting process here in PA. |
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Post by seanx on Dec 7, 2007 17:03:06 GMT -5
Ron Paul is backed by several White Supremacists and neo-Nazi groups... has he done anything to disassociate himself with this? Everything I read is no but I am considering the source so I want to know from a supporter. Not a smart ass question, just wondering. Here's where I stumbled across it.... never looked at this site before so I'm not sure what they are about.... www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html....well now you and Jim have a reason to vote for him...... I saw someone ask him about white supremacist supporters awhile back and he took the high road saying that he does not agree with their beliefs and feels that many times neocon groups do this to discredit him.....Medved is a puppet and doesn't deserve any reaction anyway...it is what he is looking for to create a bigger story and not all Jews are against Paul (just the zionist jews)....he has plenty of Jewish organizations who are supporting him.....that surfing rabbi and his followers are one that I know of off the top of my head..... |
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Post by freddyv on Dec 7, 2007 20:19:43 GMT -5
freddy...do you know much of Giuliani's past? His connections? If you don't care that's fine....but if you do then you may want to do some heavy research on the guy.... I've heard things. He has a questionable past...marital infidelities...backed one of his boys to take over for Ridge and ended up with some serious egg on his face. He toots his own horn about his record in NYC, but I've heard manhattanites complain about him and say he wasn't very well liked and that prior to 911 he was pretty much on his way out. I'm not a Giuliani guy, but if it's Giuliani vs. Clinton I have to vote for Rudy. I don't like Hillary's political views, I don't like her shady past and the sense of entitlement vibe she puts out, I don't like her "above the law" mentality... like gnarls barkley sang "I could go on and on and on...but who cares" |
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Post by Mickulz on Dec 7, 2007 20:38:08 GMT -5
Brewsters Million keeps coming to mind...
(I am sure SOME of you have seen this great work of comedic genius).
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Post by sayten on Dec 7, 2007 20:53:09 GMT -5
Brewsters Million keeps coming to mind... (I am sure SOME of you have seen this great work of comedic genius). Brewster's Millions.... 30 days to spend 30 million... I'd be in heaven!!!!! (a few super bowl commercials later) Vote none of the above... still something that should be true today.... |
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Post by Mickulz on Dec 7, 2007 22:14:05 GMT -5
It was spend 1 million in 30 days to get 30 million.
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Post by sayten on Dec 7, 2007 22:30:18 GMT -5
no it wasn't.... spend 30 in 30 to get 300...
you're stupid
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Post by mdeasy on Dec 8, 2007 12:20:39 GMT -5
l[/quote]If Marshall was smart, he would have voter registration cards at the benefit. I don't think many know of the primary voting process here in PA.[/quote] Boy that is a good idea. Check the press release  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: CONTACT: Marshall Deasy 717-991-3104 marshall@stressfreestudios.org www.ronpaulbash.comMarshall P. Deasy IV and Ray Zeiters Announce The Ron Paul Bash Party and Concert. Dec. 15 @ Dragonfly Nightclub. 8:30pm to 2am. Harrisburg, PA, 12/10/07 - On Saturday, December 15th, Ron Paul fans, like-minded artists, music lovers and politicians will gather for a lively evening of music, dancing and fun at the Ron Paul Bash. The Ron Paul Bash is a party at Dragonfly Nightclub in Harrisburg, which will include performances from top area artists as well as video presentations centered around Ron Paul and his campaign. The event's purposes are to raise people’s awareness of Ron Paul, have a lot of fun and to raise a little money as well. National media coverage of Ron Paul’s surprising 4th quarter earnings inspired Ray and I to do something unique to help out the Ron Paul campaign and since we're both in bands we decided to throw a party and bring out all our friends. The date, December 15 just happens to be the anniversary of The Bill of Rights. What better day to celebrate Ron Paul. And as it happens, December 16th is the anniversary of The Boston Tea Party. This is the big "money bomb" donation day for Ron Paul. The last “money bomb” donation day garnered tremendous national media coverage when Ron Paul received 4.38 million dollars in 24 hours. This propelled Ron Paul into the top earners in the republican party, as well as set a one day earnings record. At midnight we will be donating live at the venue starting off the big day with a large donation. Ron Paul is projected to haul in over 5 million dollars in 24 hours securing his position as the top 4th quarter earner in the republican party. The bands include: The Underwater, Holis, A Utopian Skyline, Artists Over Industry, Jump The Gun, Poker Face, Red 18, 7th Layer and more. Some artists are planning live collaborations with other bands including members from Quagmire Swim Team, Hierosonic, A Utopian Skyline, Ivet and more. Tickets are $10.00. Voter registration will be taking place as well. We have volunteers who will help anyone interested in registering to vote. Visit the booth for details.For additional information on the Ron Paul Bash, contact "Marshall P. Deasy IV" or visit www.ronpaulbash.com. ABOUT: ronpaulbash.com - The Ron Paul Bash is a collaboration between Myself (Marshall P. Deasy IV) and Ray Zeiters with help from various members of the Greater Harrisburg Ron Paul Meetup. - END - |
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Post by mdeasy on Dec 8, 2007 14:15:20 GMT -5
Ron Paul is backed by several White Supremacists and neo-Nazi groups... has he done anything to disassociate himself with this? Everything I read is no but I am considering the source so I want to know from a supporter. Not a smart ass question, just wondering. Here's where I stumbled across it.... never looked at this site before so I'm not sure what they are about.... www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.htmlYou can't chose who likes you. How will he benefit by saying anything about it? He won't. He's a bright fella and he knows better than to worry about this. If you know anything about what he stands for this type of stuff doesn't get a second glance. |
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Post by BT on Dec 8, 2007 16:44:48 GMT -5
Ron Paul does not and cannot possibly endorse the views of any of his supporters. We endorse HIS views.
If Ron Paul does not get the nomination , I will either write his name in, vote third party or maybe just stay home.
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Post by seanx on Dec 8, 2007 23:55:01 GMT -5
agreed, but if we followed the Constitution and Bill of Rights as they currently stand and enforce the laws as they are written.....wouldn't things be better than they are now? and if not, which amendments would you change and why? in 2 words or less........ ok...your response can be longer than 2 words.....well? |
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Post by DeafnDum on Dec 9, 2007 15:58:07 GMT -5
Welp, I'm a registered Republican.
If Ron P. doesn't get the nomination, I too am going to have to do some hard reconsideration because he is the only Republican candidate I think (at this point) i could vote for.
I would probably turn to a vote for Obama as my second choice.
Or, If Hillary gets the Dem. nod, then I will vote for whichever Republican is running against her because that bitch will make me buy a rifle and become the next Lee Harvey Oswald.
I'm also wondering - are there any Hillary supporters active in here? Can someone please tell
me how with all her two-faced politicizing has she survived this long?>
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Post by Mickulz on Dec 9, 2007 16:03:29 GMT -5
I seriously do not think there are any HC supporters on this board.
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